YOUTUBE NOW SUPPORTS 48 AND 60 FPS

Discussion in 'FRAPS General Discussion, Guides, and Tutorials' started by xanderlane, Jun 30, 2014.

  1. Here is a 4 GB chunk of a test recording I made this morning: http://bit.ly/1lKZbY0

    My settings:
    60 FPS
    full size
    locked framerate
    lossless RGB UNCHECKED

    video was about 1.49 Gbps almost the exact same data rate as 30fps and uncompressed (1.48 Gbps)

    video is written to a dedicated 400 GB partition of this hard drive: http://bit.ly/1mejga8
     
  2. raffriff

    raffriff Moderator Staff Member Site Contributor

    Check for dropped frames...it's possible you aren't actually recording 60 actual frames per second.
    To check for dropped frames, get Frafs AVI Info and look for Keyframes...(%)
    You should see 95-100%; if not, your system is dropping frames.
    If you set Fraps to record at 60 fps, but get 50% keyframes, your true frame rate is 30 fps.
     
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  3. RobiePAX

    RobiePAX Site Contributor Well-Known Member

    FAI report would be useful indeed.

    I fear with introduction of 60 fps support the dropped frames issue will become significatly more common than ever before.
     
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  4. Hey,

    Just by looking at the video i can see it's only playing 30 fps.
     
  5. RobiePAX

    RobiePAX Site Contributor Well-Known Member

    Because it's not out yet. The feature is "coming soon", while they have released few exclusive previews how high framerate will look like on YouTube. Few examples (must be viewed on HTML 5 player, Flash Player may display it at 30 fps):

     
  6. Thalmor Wizard

    Thalmor Wizard Moderator Staff Member Site Contributor

    You say that, but I have several videos playing @ 60fps on the HTML5 player atm, so I doubt the feature is coming soon. If two videos can support 60fps, the rest of YouTube can. :/
     
  7. RobiePAX

    RobiePAX Site Contributor Well-Known Member

    Links? If that's true then probably YouTube is already in the process of updating their servers country by country. Previous 2 video exceptions were meant to be strictly exclusive to EA Games until the feature goes live.
     
  8. Thalmor Wizard

    Thalmor Wizard Moderator Staff Member Site Contributor

    Try this one, it was recorded @ 720p60 and it played as smoothly as I expected for 60fps:
     
  9. RobiePAX

    RobiePAX Site Contributor Well-Known Member

    You might be right. Indeed it looks laggy on Flash Player but looks much smoother on HTML5 Player. I suppose they have already applied the update to UK servers. I've tried yesterday few tests, it's still not available in Ireland.
     
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  10. De-M-oN

    De-M-oN Well-Known Member

    Was encoded to 30fps.

    Code:
    Allgemein
    Vollständiger Name  : D:\JDownloader\downloads\Let's Play Ratchet and Clank (PS3)_ Part 14 (720p).mp4
    Format  : MPEG-4
    Format-Profil  : Base Media
    Codec-ID  : isom
    Dateigröße  : 300 MiB
    Dauer  : 19min
    Gesamte Bitrate  : 2 149 Kbps
    Kodierendes Programm  : Lavf55.21.102
    
    Video
    ID  : 1
    Format  : AVC
    Format/Info  : Advanced Video Codec
    Format-Profil  : Main@L3.1
    Format-Einstellungen für CABAC  : Ja
    Format-Einstellungen für ReFrames  : 3 frames
    Codec-ID  : avc1
    Codec-ID/Info  : Advanced Video Coding
    Dauer  : 19min
    Bitrate  : 1 887 Kbps
    Breite  : 1 280 Pixel
    Höhe  : 720 Pixel
    Bildseitenverhältnis  : 16:9
    Modus der Bildwiederholungsrate  : konstant
    Bildwiederholungsrate  : 30,000 FPS
    ColorSpace  : YUV
    ChromaSubsampling  : 4:2:0
    BitDepth/String  : 8 bits
    Scantyp  : progressiv
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)  : 0.068
    Stream-Größe  : 263 MiB (88%)
    
    Audio
    ID  : 2
    Format  : AAC
    Format/Info  : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format-Profil  : LC
    Codec-ID  : 40
    Dauer  : 19min
    Bitraten-Modus  : konstant
    Bitrate  : 254 Kbps
    Kanäle  : 2 Kanäle
    Kanal-Positionen  : Front: L R
    Samplingrate  : 44,1 KHz
    Stream-Größe  : 35,4 MiB (12%)
    While the bf trailer runs at 59,94 fps:

    Code:
    Allgemein
    Vollständiger Name  : D:\JDownloader\downloads\Battlefield Hardline_ Multiplayer Trailer 60 FPS (1080p).mp4
    Format  : MPEG-4
    Format-Profil  : Base Media
    Codec-ID  : isom
    Dateigröße  : 44,6 MiB
    Dauer  : 1min 13s
    Gesamte Bitrate  : 5 088 Kbps
    Kodierendes Programm  : Lavf55.21.102
    
    Video
    ID  : 1
    Format  : AVC
    Format/Info  : Advanced Video Codec
    Format-Profil  : High@L4.2
    Format-Einstellungen für CABAC  : Ja
    Format-Einstellungen für ReFrames  : 3 frames
    Codec-ID  : avc1
    Codec-ID/Info  : Advanced Video Coding
    Dauer  : 1min 13s
    Bitrate  : 4 826 Kbps
    Breite  : 1 920 Pixel
    Höhe  : 1 080 Pixel
    Bildseitenverhältnis  : 16:9
    Modus der Bildwiederholungsrate  : variabel
    Bildwiederholungsrate  : 59,940 FPS
    minimale Bildwiederholungsrate  : 59,920 FPS
    maximale Bildwiederholungsrate  : 59,960 FPS
    ColorSpace  : YUV
    ChromaSubsampling  : 4:2:0
    BitDepth/String  : 8 bits
    Scantyp  : progressiv
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)  : 0.039
    Stream-Größe  : 42,2 MiB (95%)
    
    Audio
    ID  : 2
    Format  : AAC
    Format/Info  : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format-Profil  : LC
    Codec-ID  : 40
    Dauer  : 1min 13s
    Bitraten-Modus  : konstant
    Bitrate  : 254 Kbps
    Kanäle  : 2 Kanäle
    Kanal-Positionen  : Front: L R
    Samplingrate  : 44,1 KHz
    Stream-Größe  : 2,22 MiB (5%)
    Nice to see for this battlefield video is, that the bitrate is about 1000 kbit higher than regular videos here. ~4800 video bitrate instead of ~3800 at 1080p.
     
  11. De-M-oN

    De-M-oN Well-Known Member

    hmm strange. At the moment now I get the bf trailer only in 29,97 fps as well and not the 59,94 fps version.

    I wonder why. The bf video had a 59,94 fps encode like can be seen in my mediainfo of previous post.

    At the moment it gets playbacked at 29,97 fps though in youtube - and same for the downloaded file in mediainfo.
     
  12. De-M-oN

    De-M-oN Well-Known Member

    Maybe it still works with the HTML5 player?

    But that would be pity, because most people use the flash player :/
     
  13. Yes looks like 60fps only is working in html5 for now and only for specific videos examples. It is not released yet to the public like us, youtube only say it will be working soon and not that it already works.

    Probably when it become released to all they will say or we'll see some configuration about it in our profile page.
     
  14. Thalmor Wizard

    Thalmor Wizard Moderator Staff Member Site Contributor

    YouTube specifically stated they don't use Flash Player any more, only browser extensions force it, so it's no big surprise 60fps does not work on Flash. >_>

    Also, only some videos and servers are upgraded to support 60fps, like I stated because my videos which were encoded @ 60fps (despite what Demon claims with his report, my video was encoded @ 60fps) and they play back @ 60fps on the html5 player just fine for me, just what I expect because it's already rolled out, it just depends on how long your local YouTube servers take to poll for new changes.

    Also, I would advise you avoid downloading any more of my video content Demon, it's against youtube policy to download videos using video downloader tools.
     
  15. Waddle

    Waddle Site Contributor Well-Known Member

    Ohhh, that's no fun. >_<
     
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  16. De-M-oN

    De-M-oN Well-Known Member

    I dont care.

    I download them anyway. If you watch the stream it is a download as well.

    Source?

    And why firefox plays with flash player without extensions?
    The HTML5 player has even to be enabled first here: https://www.youtube.com/html5

    Firefox doesnt support MSE. MSE support is needed though to have dash support via HTML5.
    So firefox currently can only access the non-dash streams with the html5 player - which is only 360p and 720p.
    All other quality levels are only available in dash mode. This implies the high framerate encodes. So currently it is impossible to watch the high framerate streams with firefox.
     
  17. Thalmor Wizard

    Thalmor Wizard Moderator Staff Member Site Contributor

    Because Firefox sucks and can't seem to be bothered to push an update for this :p:p
    Only if it doesn't show up in the first place, every other browser automatically uses HTML5 player by default anyway.
     
  18. De-M-oN

    De-M-oN Well-Known Member

    Firefox should at least finally support MSE then.

    Having in HTML5 only the non-dash qualities is really bad :-/

    I could use google chrome, but I dont know. I use for so long now ff and the work to find similar addons (I use some) and if all is like firefox there too - hmm.. Maybe using both browsers helps to get into the new one..

    I'm beside of that fine with ff though :-/
     
  19. Waddle

    Waddle Site Contributor Well-Known Member

    The only reason to use Firefox is because of the video downloader addons. Pretty much everything else is in Chrome Extensions.
     
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  20. Thalmor Wizard

    Thalmor Wizard Moderator Staff Member Site Contributor

    And even then, you can find video downloader addons in other extensions anyway, such as the popular YouTube Center userscript. Firefox is way behind every browser, other browsers are more appropriate.
     
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